Consumers and industry react with fury to leaked Feed-in Tariff cut plans

by ClickGreen staff. Published Sat 29 Oct 2011 08:24, Last updated: 2011-10-29
Energy Secretary Chris Huhne expected to make FiT cuts announcement next week
Energy Secretary Chris Huhne expected to make FiT cuts announcement next week

Consumers and installers of solar PV panels have reacted furiously to the details in yesterday's leaked document, which revealed the Government's planned 50% cutback of the Feed-in Tariff rates.

Solar businesses have now called on energy ministers to look again at Monday's scheduled announcement, in which they are expected to confirm a December 8 cut-off for the current, higher rate of cash payments.

Many would-be consumers have said the six-week window gives them no time to clear planning regulations and order-book waiting lists to install panels to qualify for the current 43.3p/kWh rate.

They say the early-December deadline detailed in the Energy Saving Trust briefing paper effectively instantly guillotines the current financial FiT support for solar generators.

According to the document, the UK Government is to reduce the level of cash payments it provides for new domestic solar panels from 43.3p to 21p per kWh.

Energy ministers claim the six-week window will allow installations currently on order to be completed and qualify for the current high tariff.

The reduced rate of 21p/kWh will affect all photovoltaic installations below 4kW accredited after December 8, although the previous tariff of 43p/kWh will be paid until March 31, 2012, after which the revised, lower rate will be introduced for the remainder of the 25-year contract.

In addition, all new domestic installations must be accompanied by an Energy Performance Certificate (EPC) with a level C or above from April 1. Alternatively, properties that have completed all Green Deal measures will also qualify.

If households do not meet the energy efficiency targets they may only be eligible for an even lower tariff.

Shaun Taylor, managing director of Buckinghamshire-based SolarTech, said: “If this leak proves accurate then the Government will be condemning tens of thousands of residents in social housing to continued fuel poverty as there is no way that 'free PV' schemes will now be financially viable.

“The impact on employment will also be enormous as the industry had forecast 20,000 to 30,000 jobs would be created in this sector.

“If the Government's plan was to add to unemployment, close businesses, leave thousands in fuel poverty and miss our European Carbon Reduction Targets then job done! Let’s hope that this leak doesn’t turn out to be accurate and drown the industry.”

Richard Lockhart of Renewable Resources Energy Solutions added: “A lot of PV businesses buy panels and equipment in advance in bulk to get good prices, they train and recruit qualified installers, etc.

“A lot of private people wishing to install place deposits, we are all now about to suffer.

“This deadline is totally impracticable. Since the last announcement in February 2011 and the subsequent changes to FiTs that took effect in August (where it was confirmed that no further changes would be made to FiT bands - without another review and anyway not before 31st March 2012) a large number of businesses have stuck with it and gone ahead with their business plans on this basis.

“A large number of people who have lost other jobs, often public sector jobs, have – at their own expense often – retrained into this industry and many companies have spent massive amounts training up their own people.

“Managing the business requires forward planning, which involves buying panels, inverters, hiring people, training them, buying, renting installation equipment transport, etc, taking on other costs to enable them to meet the deadlines imposed.

“These businesses and many of the people in them will now go to the wall – as it will be uneconomic to install panels on domestic installations with a FiT at this level as the payback period will be too far away to entice anyone.

“A return of 4% is now likely - and you can get that, even nowadays, from almost anything - even an indexed gilt does 3% or more.”

A Somerset-based installation company said: “We are only a small company employing 16 people, but expanding with big plans to employ more people. What now, unemployment?”

Another firm said: “[We have] just put a second staff member through a City and Guilds' course for £780, and for what? We have 10 orders but how can we get them in before December?”

Another comment received by ClickGreen said: “What certainty do we have that they will not just cut the tariff once we have it installed? Is there a contract or is it 'trust'?”

One would-be green energy consumer wrote: “Great, received my first few quotes today, and now not sure if I should even bother ordering.”

Another commented: “Really hope this proposal does not come into effect. If it does the consequences to people that have invested a lot of money will be terrible.”

A further message reads: “Any such change will kill off the domestic market at a stroke as the payback period of 18 years will be too long to make it worthwhile.”

Currently, an average 2.9kW system will generate an estimated £1,190 a year under the current FiT rate of 43.3p/kWh. Following the introduction of the proposed 21p rate, the same system will generate £640, extending the payback period of an £11,500 installation from 10 to 18 years.

The Government says it is moving forward the tariff cut after the first phase of its Comprehensive review found that, since the scheme started, the global costs of PV panels have fallen significantly.

It says this, combined with other factors, has meant that the returns available from PV are now far higher than originally intended. Originally the plan was to provide generators with a rate of return of around 5-8%. Actual returns were much higher - around 10%. The Government's plan will now mean a rate of return of 4%.






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Comments about Consumers and industry react with fury to leaked Feed-in Tariff cut plans

why couldnt the GOV save money else where, such as taking sky tv and entertainment out of prisions and making it a hard life in there insted
Zoe, wales around 6 months, 2 weeks ago
no one is arguing that lowering the rates is wrong. its the timing and the severity thats the problem. solar industry = crippled
zoe, Wales around 6 months, 2 weeks ago
Roll on the next election, "We are all in this together": LIARS, LIARS, LIARS!. The greedy energy 6 are having a ball.
A Hill, West Midlands around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Congratulations to the government for being so short sighted and killing yet another industry. time to get back on the doll.
Nick Swan, Dorset around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
its only because everyone was getting ripped off by so called experts and other so called experts have reduced to install cost so much....
a joker, uk around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
I'd like to buy my electricity from a nuclear generator, not solar or wind. I think that is the best and viable option. How can I do that?
Fredrick, Wiltshire around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
NB it's the 'eligibility date' which is key ie the date your power company receives your completed application following installation
Steve, Yorkshire around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
The feed in COSTS are ridiculous. Yes, it's an additional COST not a 'free benefit'. Like social security, everyone else has to pay!
Steph, Surrey around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
My electricity provider confirmed the application must be processed (6weeks min) to get the higher rate so the cut is immediate!You'r warned
Steve, Sevenoaks around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Well thats one way to kill off an industry overnight just when it is going strong. The electricity customers pay the FIT!!!!
james LS, lincolnshire around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
If PV companies fold then presumably we clients will lose our guarantees. Thanks Huhne!
Lawrence, Tunbridge Wells around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
How rediculous is this,Just about ready to get quotes and then place an order, probably wont be worth my while now to spend all that money!!
Dave, Mold, N Wales around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Stop the free installer brigade and keep private installs at 43.3p this still equates to a 50% reduction of the the FIT payouts..EASY!
Mr Jackson, Manchester around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Who pays this Feed in Tariff anyway? WE DO!! And, Nick , Newcastle. Its not Labour cutting the Feed in Tariff but we know what you voted eh?
Rob ,, Stoke around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
currently having solar fitted scraped together the money signed the contract good bye savings 25 year contract means nothing !!!
darren, birmingham around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
I wouldn't be permitted to install panels on my property, so why do I have to subsidise yours? Where do you think the money comes from?
Bill Jones, Berks around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
It looks like the clowns at Westminister have been reading 'How to destroy an industry in six weeks'!
Mark, Devon around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
To avoid confusion, from the energy saving trust document... The higher tariff will continue be paid to all existing participants
Leeds Solar, Leeds around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
How the Government can make a decision that essentially results in the loss of thousands of jobs is beyond me!! Disgusting to say the least!
John, Glasgow around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
We had 6 quotes and the difference in advice was staggering. Some reps really wanted to scare us into rushing the install, can see why now.
Richard, Maidstone around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Every one needs to let their MP know that the cuts are too savage , too soon and that a responsible re-think is necessary . I have done so
David Breton , Otley West Yorks around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Massive Investment Down Drain - Rate should come down, but not 50%. Timescale unworkable AND WHY are people advertising? Shame on you.
Carol, Hants around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
I don't believe anyone will escape the reduction in tariff ultimately. The next thing they will look at is reducing the 25 year term.
N, Cornwall around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Yes,Bas that paragraph is ambigious!It sounds like everyone will be affected. We only got deposit back due to the goodwill of our installer.
M, cornwall around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
fortunate for us we haven't signed the contract on our system but devastating for the industry.Why would anyone bother now?
Peter, South Gloucestershire around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Several posters have said it won't affect existing users however according to this site it will see the 11th para. in Energy Saving Trust bl
Bas, East Anglia around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
I\'m buying a new house which isn\'t ready until December, I\'ve now changed my mind, I will NOT borrow extra for no return!
Tony, Stevenage around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
This remained one of the only ways to make a return on investment. Now scuppered. When are savers going to get a break.
Patric Maude, Isle of Wight around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
This could be the basis of a class action in the High Court, because a lot of customers may have paid deposits which they can't get back
Trevor Allan, Hampton around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Disgusted with the government announcement.We can install 4KW for under 10K hurry limited slots left
Solar PV electrical, Worcester around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Peter Kent .. good luck on getting a good quality 4kW system installed for 9k, did you account for 2 or maybe 3 inverter breakdowns ?
Billy Bob, Birmingham around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Was just looking into this , have had one quote and two due next week, was loking for the catch as an investment,seemed too good to be true!
Ron, northumberland around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
just another example of the labour government promising an un sustainable policy,
nick, newcastle around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
just another example of the labour government promising an un sustainable policy,
nick, newcastle around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
just another example of the labour government promising an un sustainable policy,
nick, newcastle around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
I take it David Cameron will continue to benefit from the higher FiT on his installation.
Barrie Potter, Llangollen around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
We can still fit before December 8th if anyone wants, 07850 463688
Craig Newsome, Manchester around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
For Jim. The DECC were unhelpful last week when I called them. All they said was "investments go down as well as up". Made my blood boil!
M, Cornwall around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Its not clear if it goes on installation date or date FIT's payment is approved. Not taking the risk - cancelled. Disgusting.
M, Cornwall around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Rang DECC last week who said enough to raise my concerns, cancelled installation. Not on mains gas-fuel poverty here I come.Thanks Gov'ment!
Neil, Cornwall around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Can we sue the government for bad investment advice as has happened to some banks and institutions ?
jim, dover around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
We have got a two week lead time so if anyone wants an install pre 8th Dec, call me 0800 082 0876. Must be quick though
Martin First Choice Solar, South West around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Bang goes incentive. This is absolutely disgusting. They are supposed to be helping the climate and economy not putting people out of work!
Emily Wheeler, Stafford around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
We will help small businesses what a crock of s#¥t
David, West Yorkshire around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
We have invested a lot to train our staff now we will lay off and wait and see.
Waseem Malik, Manchester around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Just installed last week. Made many enquiries and was assured FIT rate could not be changed. Is this correct?
Anon, Scotland around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
I have just invested £150,000 into my solar company and have 15 staff i hope the government are going to refund me or stop being so stupid
Ewan Robertson, Galashiels around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
many people will be out of work yet agan torys out !!!
say no to cuts, manchester around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Remember were all in it together, some of us more than others you can bet they have all had there solar panels.
Phill Sylvester, South Wales around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
The solar industry is keeping 30000 people off benefits you work out the maths
David Mooney, Huddersfield around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
We booked an installation in Feb-the earliest we could get.Ours won't be the only order cancelled.Greenest government ever?
Jane , Bassingbourn around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
At least explain why the politicians who worked out and accepted the original FIT ,GOT IT WRONG. Probably money going to Greece now !!!
Martin Brown, Haslemere around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Sorry.... i meant ...are these cuts just for under 4KW systems? how about 4KW Plus installations?
Will, Lancs around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Gutted, made massive investment in solar PV all for nothing thank q goverment
Chris Hill, northwich around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Can anyone tell me if these cuts are for domestic under 4KW installments?
Will, Lancs around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
I have just put all my life savings into a small free solar survey company first week of trading and now this what a joke
tim dunwoody, manchester around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Are these tarrif cuts
will, lancs around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Isn't it funny how politicians see things people can't afford, they raise those costs, but when they see the people making more, they cut?
ElectroPig Von FökkenGrüüven, Canada. On the left. Past the tree. Yeah, right there. around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
We are a small Solar company just expanded into new offices and brought a lock up, spent £20,000 on a bulk buy of panels, Government SCUM!!!
Darren Pennington, Surrey around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Is it not time to vote to kick these Tories OUT!
Robert , East Lothian around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
I'm livid. greenest govnt etc. The RHI debarcle first followed by this. A great way to kill the ONLY booming sector in the economy.
Richard Hudson, York around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
4kWp system £9k FIT @ 21p plus export 3.1p plus savings total £900 makes 10% ROI or 10 years payback. It is not bad at all.
Pete, Kent around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
I don't have £10,000 to invest so I was getting loan which leaves me 3% return to cover energy price rises, can't do it now
S, Yorkshire around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
WHO'S DRIVING THIS CHANGE?
IAN COMLEY, ABINGDON around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
We were more than thinking we should move soon to reduce our pension expenditure, now looks as if we should not look for any free meals.
Robin, Plymouth around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
firstly why are we not including the money off bills in returns and the time limit makes a mockery of health and safety its a dangerous job
Colin Tyrrell, Wilshire around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Stop the free installs and keep private installs at 43.3p this still equates to a 50% or more reduction of the the FIT payouts (SOLVED)
Steve Huskinson, Sussex around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
We are a small gas and electrical company who has spent 1000's on getting into pv, this is devastating, can still do a 4kw for 8500 though
Pete, Peterborough around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
People who have had them fitted and are receiving the 43.3p seem to think they will be affected. They are not. It is only for installs after
Robert, Guisborough around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
People who have had them fitted and are receiving the 43.3p seem to think they will be affected. They are not. It is only for installs after
Robert, Guisborough around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
On 9th Dec, I will have to lay off 50 staff. If Cameron and Osborne were fully briefed, this wouldn't be happening. DECC - do your job now!
Brian Smith, Northants around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Cheers David thanks for the confidence boost, hey lets give more money to Greece or benifits lay abouts instead of harw working investors!!!
andy lwas, norwich around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
I blame these companies that Install free systems and are milking the FIT scheme, If they were stopped I am sure this would not be happening
Steve Huskinson, Sussex around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
You know who your Are come on Mr Noble and Mr leggit fight for us and save our buisness you have the power to make them listen.
Energy, Leicestershire around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
No Lucy, you haven't been cheated, your tarriff is locked in for 25 years and will continue to rise with inflation
Craig Newsome, Manchester around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Surprise Surprise... wind power subsidies survive yet again... unbelievable!!!
Anthea Orchard, Bradford around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
And contrary to the aticles cost statement for a 2.9kw system, that's way too much, we do a 4kw for less tan that, our 2.9kw system is 8000
Craig Newsome, Manchester around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Ian, provided they can fit it before 8th December then there is no problem for you, you will still get the top rate feed in tarrif
Craig Newsome, Manchester around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Hi anyone want to start up a company invest tens of thousands of pounds creat employment ...the have the rug pulled from under you VOTE TORY
jim, glasgow around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Just about to pay deposit to small local company. Not now and they do nothing but solar!!Tragic !!
Ian, Wiltshire around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
WHO'S DRIVING THIS CHANGE?
IAN COMLEY, ABINGDON around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
If you have an install before the deadline then you will still get the full 43.3 for the 25 years. FACT!!! it`s after that it goes down
Craig Newsome, Manchester around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Typical Torys. Their rich party funding mates are probably taking a hit in profits since the PVS have been going in, you work it out?
Richard, maidstone around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Shouldnt feed in just be nett set-off? I cant see any sense in any other arrangement. Electricity suppliers have to compete dont they?
Sally, Bucks around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Invested lump of pension in panels, now govt reneges on commitment AND forces yet more expenditure on more d/glazing. How untrustworthy?
Lawrence, Tunbridge Wells around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Some seem to doubt the contract they already have for existing systems. I don't see how they can change a 25yr contact with private supplier
Cabbage, Peterborough around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Who's paying for FIT anyway and why should they subsidise your energy bills because you fancy installing a folly on your roof?
Jon, Bucks around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
So much for guaranteed returns! Never trust any politician. Someone needs to get a Judicial Review going as soon as possible.
Roger Chapman, Keighley around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Never but NEVER trust a politician. Being a liar is an essential qualification for the job.
George, Lancashire around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
I have a system quote ready to sign but now I lack trust in the Government so goodbye to solar energy investment
John Gallagher, Croydon around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Don't worry. If you are the Prime Minister's father -in-law, you will still make a fortune by leasing your land for wind turbines.
George, Lancashire around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
When large energy supply companies make excessive profit the small renewables sector gets squashed. Lobby or logic influenced decision?
Andy Molloy, Basingstoke around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Just ordered a system, won't be installed before Dec. 8th, typical Tory govt. Look after the rich and big business at expense of working man
Gerry, Oldbury around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
what am I ment to tell my employee's on Monday? this government is a joke ! the industry needs to join forces and visit Downing St.
andy laws, Norfolk around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
What do you expect from a government with 11 millionaires in the cabinet - they do not care about energy bills
Peter H, Bedfordshire around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Brian Jones, High Wycombe, please give me the details of your system and who the installer is please, thanks
Kev100, Birmingham around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
I hope they bring forward the next general election too, what an absolute disgrace the industry needs to stand firm. 10% drop a year is fine
Lee, Diss around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Most decent system installers gave a 10 year product warranty. Many of these co's will now go to the wall, leaving the consumer, where????
bayl's, spalding around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Thousand of pounds invested. Hundreds of of man hours invested. We were a small start up company -- thanks government why bother!!
andy pv installer, Cambs around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
21p is still bloated. Costs have gone down so much I can still price for a 10% return and make money installing. Bye Bye FREE SOLAR.
Brian Jones, High Wycombe around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
I was going to buy a pv kit on Monday not to sure now .. Shame on the government
Andrew, Western isles around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
i do not understand why the goverment is trying to kill the growth of its own economy when country as something so positive
tom mcindoe, nottingham around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
we have set a whole business plan and invested thousands in training and sales, we intended to employ more engineers and staff, NOT NOW
richard swatton, northampton around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
AmberSolar Ltd is an expanding company installing PV systems. We have recruited additional staff and apprentices who may now lose their job
Michael Coombes, Port Talbot around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
WE 'invested' £13000 on the basis that we were 'promised' FITs at the 43.3p rate for 25 years. How can a promise be so easily broken?
David, Nr Canterbury around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Was planning to invest in a system before 3/2012, but this news makes it unlikely that I could get a system installed in time. I'm out!
John, East Midlands around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Coalition Government = Lies (Seem to recall Huhne saying "We are the Greenest Government Ever".... As i said, Coalition = lies
Paul, Teesside around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Minister says rates of return are unacceptably high. Coalition only wants utility companies to get high margins-not the public.
Ian, Plymouth around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
After investing to retrain for the ill conceived and now defunct HIPs it comes as no surprise that I am about to loose out as a PV engineer!
Russ Howe, Dorset around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
30000 PV jobs lost = 6 million/ week dole + loss of tax 10 wks 60 mil so much for the government saving 100 mil who does the economics?
Phill Sylvester, South Wales around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
This reduction rate, and in particular the sudden timescale is unprecedented for any review in any country around the world - appalling!
Jake Findlay, Yorkshire around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Once again the current government blamef for an unaffordable scheme introduced by the previous lot. If allowed to continue Bills would soar
Dave Cornwall, Newquay around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
We bought 6 panels with the assurance that we would receive the existing tariff rate plus inflation for 25 years. Not sure now!
Jack Broom , Suffolk around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
How can the government back track on a scheme it promised would be held for 25 years??
Phil Hallford, Worksop around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
If the UK don't meet the EU climate quota then the UK will be alot worse off financially than the savings made by dropping the FIT!!!!!!!!!!
jason asiq, newcastle upon tyne around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Another U turn by a government thats proving to be a total liability. I too inveted over £10k in this. How can a promise be broken so easily
S McIvor, Hull around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
I listened to the Minister on Wednesday promising to support the industry, and now this leak two days later. Why bother to lie to us?
Anon, Wales around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Just about to order some panels but can I trust in the Feed-in Tariff being there for 25 days let alone 25 years. Where is the consistency?
Phil, Truro around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
The biggest issue by far is the amount of unemployment this will cause. Yes the FIT needs to be reduced, but in a responsible fashion.
Tom, Notts around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
My 25% deposit has just been paid but the installation will not be completed until 9th December. The cut off time is much too short.
Alan Jones, Truro around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
A crazy rate reduction at impossible notice, will kil growing pv industry. Elec companys' profits can afford 43p FIT
Ken Langley , Hertfordshire around 6 months, 3 weeks ago
we invested money in 16 panels. We were assured of the tariff rate for 25 years plus inflation. Have we been cheated by the government?
Lucy, Horsham around 6 months, 3 weeks ago


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